Griffin/Saunders Family of Knocknaboley Wicklow

John GRIFFINAge: 84 years17501834

Name
John GRIFFIN
Birth about 1750

Property
Knocknaboley Wicklow Ireland
1778 (Age 28 years)




Birth of a son
#1
William GRIFFIN
about 1779 (Age 29 years)

Shared note: Address: William shows up in several records and is clearly a brother or uncle of Thomas Griffin, who took over the Kemmitt/Griffin lease from old John Griffin. In 1802 William Griffin is mentioned in the entry for old John Griffin in the Coolatin Rental Books. The entry is partially unreadable but the names are clear in the text. Both William and Thomas are listed under John Griffin's Representatives in the Tithe Applotment Census of 1824 for Knocknaboley and William and Margaret Griffin are the (separate) tenants on the farm in 1839. Presumably Margaret has inherited Thomas' lease and is his widow. William Griffin had disappeared from the records by 1848.

Birth of a son
#2
Thomas GRIFFIN
about 1780 (Age 30 years)
Property
1783

Shared note: Kemmitt and Griffin appeared in many rental records for the Rockingham and then the Coolatin Estates of Wicklow Ireland from 1770 through 1850s. One example was found where they received an abatement on the rental price which was carried over from the Rockingham family to the Fizwilliam family owners. Included below is a sample of entries in the Rockingham Estate books that show Kemmit/Griffin making semiannual payments to the Estate.

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Death before 1834 (Age 84 years)
Census 1843 (9 years after death)
Shared note: The House Books, Quarto Books of 1840s in Ireland were a census of buildings and other improvements on lots. This is the entry for John Griffin in 1843 but it is hard to read. The values of the structures are visible.
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Property

John Griffin and Thomas Kemmitt received a lease based on the life of Thomas' son Charles Kemmitt in 1778. This lease lasted until the 1820's when the estate discovered that Charles had been dead since 1809, having been killed in the Peninsular War in Spain. After that, Kemmitt,Griffin, and a third partner Joseph Pollard farmed the 100 acres without having a formal lease. John Griffin's son Thomas assumed the Griffin portion of the lease by 1824 and apparently his son Peter Griffin took over the Griffin part of the operation in 1843.

A Rental Book for 1770 indicated that John Griffin and Thomas Kemmitt might have been on the land before 1770. (NLI, P.201 )

An 1840 map of the townland shows the southeast corner of Knocknaboley. The Griffin's part of the 100 Irish acre lease is 21 lots numbered 118-138.

The lease as recorded in MS 6001 and other Rental Books states:

In lease to them for the Life of Chas Kemmit Son of said Thos & 21 years from Lady Day 1778. Life in Being. Expires 1799.

Property

Kemmitt and Griffin appeared in many rental records for the Rockingham and then the Coolatin Estates of Wicklow Ireland from 1770 through 1850s. One example was found where they received an abatement on the rental price which was carried over from the Rockingham family to the Fizwilliam family owners. Included below is a sample of entries in the Rockingham Estate books that show Kemmit/Griffin making semiannual payments to the Estate.

Death

The Tithe Applotment for Knocknaboley in 1824 lists John Griffin as John Griffin Reps - and has Thomas Griffin, William Griffin, and Thomas Darcy listed under John's name. This offers strong proof that Thomas and William Griffin were sons of old John Griffin.

Perhaps Thomas Darcy was old John's son-in-law. Some Darcys moved to Canada in the 1850s along with the Griffins and Saunders of Knocknaboley.

By 1834 John Griffin's name was replaced with the name of Thomas Griffin - probably his son. William Griffin does not appear on the lease rolls but is a resident of Knocknaboley and is listed as farming part of John Griffins old lease in the Resident List of 1839.

This is a possible record of old John Griffin's death. Knocknaboley is in the Shillelagh Registration District.

Note: I believe this is a transcription error - the film states the Regisration was in 1925, not 1825.

Ireland, Civil Registration Deaths Index Name: John Griffin Estimated birth year: abt 1758 Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1825 Death Age: 67 Registration district: Shillelagh Volume: 2 Page: 636 FHL Film Number: 101736

Census

The House Books, Quarto Books of 1840s in Ireland were a census of buildings and other improvements on lots. This is the entry for John Griffin in 1843 but it is hard to read. The values of the structures are visible.

PropertyEarliest Entry of John Griffin in Lease Book for Rockingham EstatesEarliest Entry of John Griffin in Lease Book for Rockingham Estates
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Property1778 Lease Entry from MS 6059 in National Library of Ireland
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Property1779 Rental Entry for Kemmit/Griffin Lease1779 Rental Entry for Kemmit/Griffin Lease
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Property1840 Map of Knocknaboley Showing Saunders and Griffin Farms1840 Map of Knocknaboley Showing Saunders and Griffin Farms
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PropertyGriffin & Kemmitt Received Abatement on Rents - 1782Griffin & Kemmitt Received Abatement on Rents - 1782
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PropertyAssorted Entries in the Account Books for Kemmit/Griffin in 1780s
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DeathTithe Applotment for Knocknaboley in 1824Tithe Applotment for Knocknaboley in 1824
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CensusJohnGriffinQuartoBook1843Knocknaboley.jpg
JohnGriffinQuartoBook1843Knocknaboley.jpg
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Media objectRental Book Entry for Kemmitt/Griffin on Marquessa Rockingham
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Media objectEntries for Kemmitt/Griffin from Marquessa Rockingham Receipts Book
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Media objectList of All Lessors/Residents on Knocknaboley in 1827
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